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there are so many modern pedals out there, that could have been produced by rocket companies (Trick, Altone, ACD, Czarcie Kopyto). Just Take a look at the Altone Pedals - incredible! just wow! Just watch how the beater is swinging - it´s stunning!!! Everytime I see such pedals of course I´m jealous and want one too. But i´m still playing my Gibraltar Intruder and my Tama Camco Pedal from the mid/end 80´s. Simple, reliable, light and fast , easy to repair/restore and maintain - these will outlive me easily. It all depends on your technique and playing ability. As long as you are a "casual" player who does not steadily kick beyond 200 bpm, every decent "normal" pedal that works properly will do the job. If it´s not in your feet, you won´t get it out of the machine.

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Steve Asheim not complaining at all 🤷‍♂️

Whining about how every company does with high equipment 😂😂 asking for custom service when you give a eff you video as well like come on bro

Bro…you’re so spot on with this vid! I bought these pedals 2nd hand from EBay years ago…and they were so bad then, that I did a return and included the pics of all the broken parts…and the seller didn’t dispute it and let me keep the pedals for FREE!! The only Con to that…is that I still have them and struggling! What is your opinion of DW 9000 vs Iron Cobras? I’m wanting to get into more double bass work, but I’m 45 years old…and don’t have the strongest shins

I have axis a21 sabre Derek Roddy since years and none of the above problems occurred for me except low quality springs i have to change them often.but that's normaI I think cause my settings are super hard.I gig ,I play death metal and what i see in this video most of issues here are coming from simple neglect and poor maintenance.yes these pedals need once a time inspection and maintenance -checking all nuts bolts screws etc they like to losen up sometimes .This stuff working hard in extreme music !it never happen to me to beaters problems with shaving rods -puzzles me what you been doing to them they shave like that seriously.Second thought a bit controversial would be that many people blame pedals -they cant set them up etc and never look at their bad technique that can manifest very quickly and make you struggle with super precise pedals like axis .There's plethora of axis using extreme musicians and while they get nothing for being in their roster or some not even on it they still use axis and not complaint it at all...

Throw it away and get the Trick Bigfoot double kick, its the best around or Pearl's Demon XR double kick You probably lost some money but Trick or Pearl XR are very good.

I’ve always stuck with my IC 900’s that I’ve had for 25 years now. I just recently cleaned them for the first time only to make them completely silent while I’m on my DW practice pad kit. I’m so glad I never sold them I’ve never once had an issue with them and they’ve been gigged, toured and practiced with all this time as my only pedals. Just more recently have I purchased a second pedal.. an old DW 5000 USA single chain… its very nice. I’m kinda shocked there are some pedals out their that are straight trash

I have Double longboards. Had to replace both heel bearing assemblies at $60 each. 😞

Trick pedals >>>>>>>>> Axis

Years ago I had the original Axis single pedal. It just didn't have enough adjustability to get it to where I liked it. So it went in the closet to collect dust and I went back to my DW 5000.

How long did those things take to ship? Because many people say it took months for them ship

Where is the mic in this video? It sounds like it's on the table but i dont see a mic there lol

I had a set of AL-2's from prolly 2009 and I had the same problem. Back then they were like $700, now $1000!?? Hell No. This video just reconfirmed that I should definitely buy somewhere else lol. The angled beaters were definitely hell sometimes, I loved them so much but the locking system would never holds. I will say axis is my favorite pedal i've played, but man I am looking for new pedals now and I refuse to spend $1000 on them when there's a lot of new direct drive pedals coming out that look way more modern.

These similar issues actually happened on my OG Axis Longboards I got in 2008. It's definitely a long standing set of issues. When they work they are incredible. Just sucks when they don't.

Axis customer service totally sucks

I'm just seeing this now! Yeah, I bought 2 single longboard A's around 2007-ish? and right out of the boxes, I thought it was going to be the greatest day ever Nope! I put the pedals on my 2 Tama 24" kicks'. Adjusted everything accordingly, but I wanted to use my Danmar Redhead long throw beaters instead of the hot mess speed hammer beaters, or whatever they called them back then. so i get the regular wood beaters on and Wow! I was flipping!! I couldn't get the beater to contact the head! It literally Deadheaded at the 12:00 position. So, I went back, readjusted Everything again. NO GO!!!, No matter what I tried I couldn't get a regular beater of any type to impact the head without laying all my weight into it. I looked closer into the issue and found they were using springs which were about 1/3rd too short. replaced the springs with the same gauge coil wire, but longer, the springs needed more coils on them to allow for the full rotation...replaced the springs and now I'm flying....Thanks Axis!

Very true, I tried the single axis long board, did not like them at all. Yes I wasted a lot of money.

That's almost opposite of my experience overall, though there's a few similarities. I've had both a double shortboard since ~94 (well, there were no longboards then...) and a single longboard. Service: I've only had to send in one for service once (shortly after I got it), and I got back the pedals not only fixed but with spare parts and a hand-written letter explaining the issue and how it was resolved (early days!). Speed and feel: totally agree. Some love chain drive, but for me, it's like going back in time when I have to play chain drive (DW, Tama, whatever) again. They're fine pedals, but not the same. One might argue that you have more control with something not as "fast," but I don't know. JR Robinson plays Axis, so it's obviously not only about speed. Power: I hear many say this, but I disagree. The speed folks may not configure their Axis pedals this way, but you can hit the kick as loud as you need to with the appropriate beaters and settings. I think there are two things to consider: 1) the same weight beater feels much lighter on Axis--try a heavier beater, and you will get as much power as you want (note how DW has the removable weights with their beaters for their direct-drive pedals); and 2) at some point it really doesn't matter--to double the volume, you need 10x the power, which just isn't going to happen. Yes, the feel is different with chain drive, and that heavier action may "feel" more powerful. That doesn't necessarily mean it's functionally louder. Rod slipping: that hasn't been my experience, but I think it must be a common enough issue that they've apparently redesigned it to be a square design. VDL screw breaking: I've had that happen, but replaced it with a traditional drum key-style metal set screw. I think only the older models had the plastic (resin?) screw? Beaters: yeah, I swapped those out pretty quickly. The "wrecking ball" beater is aptly-named: it chews through drumheads, but pairs well with a Gibraltar Click Pad (if you want that sound). I haven't tried any of the others, though the Kollias beater looks worth a shot. I've had awful luck with beaters, though. I forget which model I used where the head could be rotated up/down to align with the head and then set with a set screw. It invariably would keep rotating while playing until it had rotated up 90 degrees, with the edge of the beater head digging into the batter pad. The one I have now rotates right/left, but for whatever reason, that continually rotates off-center also. One would think it would twist to align itself flat rather than rotating from aligned to off-angle. No problems with an old-school felt Danmar beater, though. I agree 100% on the hoop clamp screw--those get eaten up. The problem is that it's aluminum, which is a soft metal (you can cut it using saw blades made for wood). The mechanism in general is a pain, and my biggest complaint about these pedals. I wish they used something more like DW and others where the screw isn't beneath the footboard--it's difficult to get your fingers in there and tighten it hard enough to the clamp. Thankfully, their velcro is so strong that the pedal is going nowhere (on carpet)... but the clamp mechanism unfortunately won't clamp hard enough to keep the drum in place.

Dude, just get a different pedal You act like you were and are forced to play them

Highly suggest you go to a machinist or a hotrod garage. They can fix all this for you.

Axis longboards are literally the standard in metal drumming above 200 bpm. This guy is a literal no one with an e-kit. Hundreds of drummers in actual bands with actual recorded material use axis pedals exclusively.

I've always had the A version. Never had any of these issues. I will admit tho, I didn't like the beaters either.

I have around 250-300 bucks budget, can u recommend a pedal ? I thought about the pearl p932 bc they are longboards. Does someone have them and how are they ?

Oh, I see why he doesn't like the axis pedals, he thought spending a ton of money would make him play better lol

Cue the drummer jokes, he doesn't know how to use his pedals so he says they're shit XD -Like when he says the back plate is broken it actually just needs to be tightened from the 2 screws -I don't know what he's talking about with plastic because mine are all metal -My pedals have loads of power, it's how you set them up and what beaters you use -"Titanium rods broke bc I was playing a little bit too hard" followed by "Titanium snapped on me from playing some fkng light jam" Kinda seems like you're full of it His truth is not the honest truth, he just never learned how to use his pedals properly and it resulted in him messing them up and also thinking he needs triggers, which I have and don't use That review was garbage

Damn. I almost bought a used set of them, but I wanted to double-check if these were a good idea.

where can you find the tabs for this songgg

I have been playing axis pedals for 6-7 years myself. I like how they feel, but I can't help but break the heel block, particularly on the slave pedal. I even replaced it with an ACD heelblock they made for axis pedals and I STILL managed to lose one of the screws on the heel block recently

Axis have since re-engineered the pedals and they are infinitely better and more durable

This is thru line 6 combo ? Woooow Gonna share that settings ?

hope he's okay

I just got mine for 466 dollars cause the guy has to sell them as soon as possible cause his mom got diagnosed with cancer.. I bought them for two reasons.. 1) The huge price gap and 2) His situaion that i really felt and wanted to help somehow. Do you think i made a mistake?

Ive got the old silver axis longboards and i absolutely shred them with some generic beaters and ive never had any problems. The only complaint i could give you is they are less forgiving and more twitchy than the chain drive stuff but the response is second to none. Idk whats up with these new black ones they mustve gone down the shitter with QC

Hey man, just wandering what pedals you are playing now?

So, they hit so hard they broke titanium rods, but they don't hit hard... you broke parts on your second tour... so they must be crap... and, they sell rebuild kits that include the rubber bumpers for the hoop clamp. I've had great service from Axis. Any time your tour equipment it's going to need regular service. I do agree the sonic hamers are not a great design... the 21A Laser solved that problem. Go with some type of ball beater. Axis recommends the more solid X pedal for tour duty. 6 years of many gigs and tours... yeah...

I know this is late, but I have the Trick Pro 1-v bigfoots and they do everything the Axis pedals do but more. Far more reliable and deliver the power, trigger or not!

You must have had a bad pair because I have experienced none of the issues you mentioned, with the exact model pedals, for almost 10 years. there are multi million dollar companies whose equipment is dead on arrival every now and then. shit happens lol machines are just as capable of making mistakes as the humans who built them. but lets just at least please not deny the smoothness of these pedals given all things are built right.

that ukalele goes so hard

DW Direct Drive pedals are the reigning king of pedals. There is no comparison.

Brutally honest

Honestly I've always thought Axis was overrated, I'm getting Trick pedals what do yall think of Trick pedals?

I’ve always wanted to try these, but never got the chance. I was between these, and the pearl demon drives and am infinitely happy with the demon drives. Had iron cobras, then speed cobras, then wanted some direct drives and went with the pearls. So much customization with ease on them.

My son spent a lot of money on two Axis As with the MicroTorque system. It took almost two months to get them and when they arrived, one of the nuts for the bass drum hoop clamp was already cross-threaded. Off to the hardware store to find a similar machine screw and wing nut. Then, two weeks in, one of the springs broke. This time, we called Axis about 10 times to explain the problem and get some replacements to both fix the pedal and keep some spares. They’re very fast, but everything you said was right about quality control and customer service.

Thank you for reassuring my love old for my old iron cobras with I've had since 03......

1000% truth ,,,i had axis before ,,same problems ,,specially the drive shaft ,,the ends start to become rounded so you have to tight a lot the screw but even like that with the movement start to feel lose ,,,this is for speeeed not for punch or grooves ,,i have a speed cobra now ,,,fast and punchy ,,i really recommend those ,,only $300 ,,yess ,,but i play death metal and i really think i lost some speed ,,so im going back to axis ,,just bought it yesterday ,,i love speeed ,,so im happy to go back ,,i know that you have to take more care but m,,,this is the right tool for spped with triiggers,,,tip ,,buy the trick drive shaft ,,if you want to improve this pedals.,,,good video

If I was "given" an Axis Pedal I'd trade it for something else, a dw, Iron Cobra, Pearl Elim., even a Mapex or pdp concept, just not an Axis, anything but an Axis, them Boushy boutique pedals stink & I wouldn't even waste my time with one

Lefty

I hear the beater landing on the table than this guy.. did you put the mic on the table or something?

uh, w those hammer beaters m bd 'bounces' w 2 toms on it and while using 1 pedal. just ur claiming u broke beaters w them contradicts the claim no power can be had w these pedals. u can get better henges for them. maybe there was a plastic wing on the adjuster but isn"t it an allen under the wing? old axis i have are. i think i had plastic wings on mine too.